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   as Alltech Electronics and other replacement parts stores. [See
   as Alltech Electronics and other replacement parts stores. [See
   section 10.2 for addresses, etc of these vendors]
   section 10.2 for addresses, etc of these vendors]
  If you don't mind having the power supply not inside your Apple II,
  Stephen Buggie takes power supplies designed for IBM PCs, and fits
  them with plugs for either GS or ][, ][+, or //e. These sit outside
  your Apple II (which helps reduce heat inside the case), and are
  reported to work quite well. Various levels of power (150W - 250W)
  models are available. For more information, contact Stephen Buggie at
   4.22 What are the pinouts for all the various Apple II connectors?
   4.22 What are the pinouts for all the various Apple II connectors?
   A: While these pinouts are a little too big to include in this FAQ
   A: While these pinouts are mostly Macintosh, some of this applies to
  outright, you can still find them in the same place on the WWW as this
      to the IIgs and IIc Plus. The pinouts page is available at
  FAQ, in Nathan Mates's set of Apple II Resources. The pinouts page is
  available at http://www.visi.com/~nathan/a2/faq/pinouts.html.

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From: tdiaz-apple2-org (Tony Diaz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,comp.answers,news.answers Approved: news-answers-request@MIT.EDU Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: comp.sys.apple2 Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) Part 2/4

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The next section is the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) posting of the comp.sys.apple2 newsgroup. Copyright (c) 2007 by Tony Diaz (email: tdiaz-at-apple2-dot-org), all rights reserved. This document can be freely copied so long as 1) it is not sold, 2) any sections reposted elsewhere from it are credited back to this FAQ with the FAQ's copyright info and official WWW location ( http://apple2.info/wiki/index.php?title=CSA2_FAQ) left in place.

This may not be the latest version of this FAQ-- this is an archived copy. For that, drop by http://apple2.info/wiki/index.php?title=CSA2_FAQ

This FAQ may not be sold, bundled on disks or CD-ROMs, reprinted in magazines, books, periodicals, or the like without prior consent from the maintainer, Tony Diaz. Exceptions are explicitly granted for Juiced.GS and _The_Lamp. Email me for permission otherwise.

Big thanks to Nathan Mates, the previous maintainer of this comp.sys.apple2 FAQ, for allowing it to live on after his departure and anyone who took up that mantle before him.

--- Begin part 2 of 4

Adding Hardware:

  6/13/97 4.1 What cards should go in which slots in my Apple II?
  A:This depends on what the card is, and what model your Apple II is.
  Apple IIs traded the 'IRQ' hassles of IBM PCs for more specific
  functions as to which functions should go in each slot.
  Slot 0 (only available on the Apple ][ and ][+) is pretty much
  reserved for 'Language Card' 16K RAM upgrades and ROM code for
  Integer/Applesoft Basic.
  Slot 1 tends to be used for printers in pre-GS machines, and either a
  printer or used for Appletalk in GSs, though most software supports
  printers in any slot. The printer port in a //c, IIc+, and GS
  (optional-- see the control panel) are all bound to slot 1. On a ROM
  00/01 GS with Appletalk on, one of slots 1 & 2 must be set to 'Your
  card'-- whichever card that is will have its associated port used for
  the Appletalk connection. In an appletalked ROM 00/01 GS, you may want
  to place your Hard Drive's card in slot 1 and boot off that. In the
  ROM 3, you can set slot 1 or 2 to Appletalk directly and use its
  associated port.
  Slot 2 tends to be used for modems and other serial comm devices,
  though most software supports modems in any slot. The modem port in a
  //c, IIc+, and GS (optional-- see the control panel) are all bound to
  slot 2. On the GS, it can also be used for Appletalk; see slot 1
  Slot 3 is pretty much reserved for 80-column cards, as almost every
  piece of software under the sun that wants 80 columns assumes that
  they'll find such a card there. The //e has an extra 'auxillary' slot
  that provides an alternate slot 3 with extra functionality for
  RAM/video upgrades. With an 80-column card in the auxillary slot on a
  //e, a regular card should not be placed in the 'regular' slot 3
  unless otherwise noted here. The GS's memory expansion slot does not
  affect slot 3, but programs wanting to use 80 columns want slot 3 set
  to that function.
  The few exceptions to this use of slot 3 for 80 columns are cards that
  only take power from the slot, but don't need to communicate to the
  system, such as Accelerator boards, the 'Swyftcard' for the //e (mini
  word-processor and other tools in ROM), and certain video boards like
  Apple's Video Overlay Card (VOC) and Sequential System's Second Sight
  (SS). The accelerator boards on a GS require a short cable to the CPU
  socket on the motherboard, so they're limited by distance; slot 3 is a
  good place to park them. If you find that slot 3 is unavailable with a
  Zip GS, you can move the Zip to slots 1 or 2 by flipping the cable to
  the CPU socket on both ends. On a ROM 00/01, slot 3 provides extra
  video signals required by the VOC or SS, so those boards must go
  there. ROM 3 GSs provide those signals to slots 1-6, reducing the
  crowding for that slot.
  Slot 4 is the most open of the slots. It tends to be used for mouse
  controller cards (//e, some //cs, emulated on GS), CP/M cards, or
  other things.
  Slot 5 tends to be used by Smartport and other 3.5" controller cards,
  or more 5.25" disks. If you don't have such a drive, other cards can
  be placed in them.
  Slot 6 is almost always used for 5.25" drive controller cards. Any
  software using Apple's UCSD Pascal OS on a 5.25" disk must boot from a
  5.25" disk mapped to slot 6. If you don't use such programs or don't
  use 5.25" disks anymore, this slot may be used for some other
  Slot 7 doesn't have as much of a defined role, but is useful for
  placing Hard Drive controllers in; Appletalk support in a ROM 00/01 GS
  and //es with the workstation card require that Slot 7 be set over to
  Appletalk. [With a GS, move the HD controller to a different slot, and
  set it to boot off there.]
  Before the GS, Apple IIs were set to boot off the disk controller (any
  type, matching a few identification bytes) in the highest numbered
  slot. Depending on the type of device, if the disk is not ready, it'll
  either wait forever for a valid disk (such as the original Disk ][
  controller), or give up and let the next highest slot boot. GSs can be
  set via the text control panel to either 'Scan' the slots in the same
  order, or boot directly off any slot.
  If you occasionally want to boot off a different disk than your
  default (e.g. HD controller in slot 7, but want to play copy protected
  games on a 5.25" disk in slot 6), there are some utilities to let you
  cancel booting off the current drive and boot another. Eric Shepherd's
  'ProBoot' program is a good utility to do just that:
  4.2 Can I add more memory to my Apple II?
  A: Yes. The hard part is getting machines before the GS to recognize
  all of it. The Apple ][ and ][+ have a practical limit of about 64K,
  which is accomplished by the 16K language card in slot 0. [Some
  accelerators provided 128K, as well as some very old ram cards, but I
  don't have any real info on that.]
  The //e had the widest variety of memory expansion options. The AUX
  slot used for 80-column cards could also handle memory expansion--
  Apple's own Extended 80-column card provided an extra 64K of memory.
  Other cards in that slot could reportedly add several megs of memory.
  There were also RAM cards for slots 1-7, the so-called 'slinky' cards,
  also capable of adding a meg or more. Most of these cards are only
  available used, but Sequential Systems is still making and selling a
  1MB //e RAM card.
  Later models of the Apple //c had an internal memory expansion port,
  which RAM 'cards' could be added internally-- see the section on Apple
  //cs for how to determine if a //c could have RAM added. Such RAM
  cards are only available used; Sequential used to make one, but it's
  not listed anymore on their WWW page.
  The problem with adding extra RAM to Apple IIs (before the GS) is that
  not much software would take advantage of it at all. Only a few
  programs like Appleworks had any form of support-- versions 1.x or 2.x
  needed to be patched to recognize more memory, 3.0 and up could use an
  externally supplied file. [To get the patch or the file, see the disks
  that came with the RAM card.] Applesoft and Integer Basic, most games,
  and the like don't care about any RAM beyond the 48-128K they require
  to run.
  The GS, due to its processor design, can directly address up to 16MB
  of memory (about 2MB is reserved in the GS's design for ROM), though
  RAM cards only go up to 8MB in a ROM 01 and 7MB in a ROM 3. [The 1MB
  on the ROM 3's motherboard reduces the RAM card's range] Sequential
  Systems and Alltech Electronics still sell 2-8MB RAM boards for the
  GS; there were also lots of other manufacturers. Alltech's Sirius
  board takes 1MB 30-pin SIMMs, so if you have a cheap source of them,
  you may find it cheaper to buy an empty board and populate it
  Going to 7 or 8 MB of RAM on a GS is not always recommended. A number
  of devices, especially Apple's Hi-speed SCSI board, cannot handle DMA
  (Direct Memory Access, used to speed Hard Drive cards and
  accelerators) past the first 4MB of RAM, so you may take a performance
  hit, or the board may not work at all. The RamFAST SCSI board appears
  to be better about supporting past 4MB RAM, but there are still
  reports of problems.
  The GS can also have //e 'slinky' cards plugged in, but aside from
  Appleworks and ramdisk support, the memory on these boards is NOT
  available to GS programs. This is because they are accessed via slots
  1-7 manually, one byte at a time in sequential order, while the 65816
  wants program RAM to be directly accessible in random order. It would
  require rewriting a program to address slinky cards from a GS, and as
  the numbers of those are extremely limited, no real support for them
  was ever widespread.
  4.3 Can I accelerate my Apple II?
  A: Yes. Over the years, many accelerators were produced for the varios
  models in the Apple II series. Most of these were slot-based cards
  such as the AE Transwarp 1-3, though the ZipChip (4 and 8 Mhz models)
  and RocketChip (5 and 10 Mhz models) were drop-in processor
  replacements. For the GS, the Transwarp GS and the Zip GS were the
  only options. No accelerator for any Apple II is available new
  anymore-- you'll have to look for one used. A separate FAQ for
  upgrading ZIP GS or TransWarp GS accelerators is available at
  For only a few dollars, you can buy a faster 65C02/65816 from an
  electronics parts catalog. However, this most likely won't do you a
  bit of good without an ungradeable accelerator card. This is because
  the Apple II's system bus runs at 1Mhz, and provides a 1Mhz signal to
  the processor socket. The processor derives its timing off that
  signal; running it at a speed under what it's rated at is perfectly
  safe and legal. Accelerator cards or chips provide their own
  oscillator at a faster speed, plus the logic necessary for a chip to
  interface with the slower 1Mhz bus.
  4.4 Can I hook up a modem to my Apple II?
  A: Yes, most external serial modems should work great with an Apple
  II. Models such as the //c, IIc+ and IIGS have a serial port built in;
  the ][, ][+ and //e do not and will need to have one added.
  An Apple ][, ][+ or //e with Apple's Super Serial Card and an external
  modem that's fast enough can connect at 9600 baud fine; 19200 may be
  iffy. (Past 19200 pretty much requires an accelerated Apple II). There
  is an addon to the Super Serial Card called the Turbo ASP that has a
  theoretical maximum of 230,400; see the entry for Lightning Systems in
  the dealer's section of this FAQ.
  The very first revision of the //c motherboard had a faulty serial
  setup that prevented most machines from reliable serial communications
  faster than 2400 baud. See the section on the //c in this FAQ for
  information on how to determine if a system is likely to be affected.
  Various companies sell cables for the Apple //c's more oddball 5-pin
  serial ports; check out Atlaz Computer Supply (516-239-1854) or LYBEN
  Computer Systems at (800) 493-5777.
  The GS (and probably the IIc+) and the appropriate software (such as
  ProTERM, Spectrum or ANSITerm) can connect at up to 57600 baud. (Once
  again, an accelerator is recommended for the higher speeds).
  For any Apple II, speeds past 9600 pretty much require you to get a
  'Hardware Handshaking' modem cable. This is a cable with connections
  between the handshaking pins (cheapo cables may only have the 3 wires
  necessary to do simple serial) and thus allows the computer to tell
  the modem that it is temporarily too busy to receive data, so the
  modem doesn't send more data until the computer's ready.
  Internal modems for Apple IIs only seem to have gone up to 2400 baud,
  which was fast for the time the boards were made, but is now fairly
  outdated. You cannot use internal PC modems in Apple IIs.
  4.5 Can I hook up a LaserWriter, DeskJet, etc to my Apple //e?
  A: A number of them. The best bet is probably the HP DeskJet series.
  Most supported printers have either regular serial or parallel
  connections. The tricky part is getting the software to do what you
  want. The DeskJet, for example will print very nice-looking text with
  regular old "PR#1". But if you want to change the font or print
  graphics, you may have to purchase some software. One excellent
  program for these types of printers is PublishIt 4.
  For AppleWorks fans, there is the program called SuperPatch. Among
  it's patches is a cool DeskJet 500 (most DeskJet 6xx printers should
  be compatible, but check the documentation) printer driver. You can
  print sideways, and change fonts with normal AppleWorks commands. The
  DeskJet driver is built in to AW 4.0 and later.
  The Apple Stylewriter family is not supported by any //e program to my
  4.6 Can I hook up a Laser printer, ink jet, or bubble jet printer to
  my Apple IIGS?
  A:In short: a number of them, but not all. Please look through the
  following list to check if a particular model you're looking at is
  supported. Also, the following applies to all programs which support
  the GS system toolbox methods for talking to printers through drivers.
  Most GS programs support this; Print Shop GS is an exception-- it'll
  pretty much only work with the printers listed in the program, and
  then only at its printing resolutions.
  On the GS, you can hook up most LaserWriters made by Apple via
  AppleTalk-- if it supports Postscript and Appletalk, it should work.
  [Apple's Quickdraw printers are not usable.] A GS program can
  typically print to a LaserWriter if it's connected to the GS via
  AppleTalk; just install the LaserWriter drivers from the System 6
  disks. Note that some LaserWriters from Apple may be 'Quickdraw,' not
  true Postscript printers, so they won't work from the GS. The
  Laserwriter, Laserwriter II, LW IINT, LW IINTX are all known to work
  Of the Apple Stylewriter family, ONLY the original Stylewriter will
  work on the GS, and then only from GS/OS with the System 6 drivers. As
  Apple has not written drivers or released the specifications so that
  drivers could be written by third parties, none of the rest of the
  Stylewriter models works when connected to a GS.
  The HP DeskWriter family is mostly only for Macintoshes; the DeskJet
  3xx, 5xx or 6xx (xx= any 2 numbers, plus some optional letters)
  printer families is much more friendly to all models of the Apple II.
  If you get a DeskJet, or PaintJet, etc, you can hook them up via a
  parallel printer card or serial cable depending on what ports the
  printer has. The exceptions to this are HP's recent 'Windows Only'
  printers, such as the HP DJ 820C models, which don't work at all with
  Apple IIs.
  But, in order to use pretty much any inkjet or bubblejet printer that
  the GS can talk to effectively, you will need Harmonie (originally
  published by Vitesse; now taken over by Joe Kohn's Shareware Solutions
  II (better-- supports color printing on HP inkjets that have such
  support built in) or Independence (cheaper, but only black & white
  printing) from Seven Hills. They are new printer drivers for GS/OS
  programs only. These two programs extend the ranges of printers
  supported by the GS. If you want to print from an 8-bit program, see
  the previous question.
  Harmonie's drivers also support a number of printer modes that other
  printers can handle. Apparently the Canon BJ-200e works well with
  Harmonie 2.1's Epson LQ or Epson LQ 4000 drivers.
  As provided by Richard Der, here is a list of printers and such
  supported by Harmonie; there may be other printers that are compaible
  with such models listed here, but are not listed. Nobody's gotten a
  list of printers supported by Independence to me yet, unfortunately.

Printers supported by Harmonie: --Canon Dot Matrix-- Canon 1080

--HP DeskJet (or DeskWriter) Ink-Jet-- DeskJet (Manual states all DeskJet and DeskJet 5xx drivers DeskJet 500C work with DeskWriter series of the same number DeskJet 520 using the high speed Printer 57.6 serial port DeskJet 550C driver included with on the disk) DeskJet 560C *560C driver is compatible with DJ/DW 600C and 660C

             printers. The DJ 400 is like th DJ 600C. The DJ 560C
             driver is listed as a 600x300dpi one whereas all the
             rest are 300x300dpi. [Other models like the 680C/682C
             should work also.]

--Epson LQ 24-pin Dot Matrix (or Canon Ink-Jet)-- Epson LQ (Epson LQ drivers work with Canon BJ models for Epson LQ 4000 hi-res 360dpi printing. Some older models have Epson LQ 800 dip switches that must be set to enable automatic

                Epson emulation -> for example, the BJ-200e
                requires DIP switch 12 to be set to ON. The printer
                manual should say what to do for the specific model.
                BJ-10e, BJ 100, BJ-200, BJ-210, BJ-4100, and BJ-600
                models also list Epson LQ emulation and should work
                with one or more of these drivers.)

--Epson 9-pin Dot Matrix-- Epson MX 80

--HP LaserJet laser Printers-- LaserJet LaserJetIIP LaserJet III (Newer LaserJet models also work with these drivers

                as are any HP compatible laser printers)

--Misc. Dot Matrix Printers-- Okimate 20 Panasonic 1124 Pinwriter

--Misc. Ink-Jet-- HP PaintJet QuadJet

  Gareth Jones adds the following from his list on his Harmonie 2.11

-- Apple Dot Matrix Printers-- ImageWriter LQII ImageWriter II

  Users have reported that the HP Deskjet 690C works well with the
  Harmonie 560C driver, as expected.
  I'd like to get a list of all printers that are 1) officially
  supported by Harmonie/Independence, 2) not officially listed, but a
  driver exists that works well with them and 3) don't work at all with
  Apple IIs. Given that I have neither the time nor the money to test
  every printer on the market, I'd appreciate feedback sent to me at
  4.7 Can I use Macintosh RGB or IBM VGA/SVGA Monitors with my ][?
  A: Not normally. Even with the GS's RGB monitor connector, the GS puts
  out a 15Khz horizontal refresh signal. Most modern monitors (notable
  exceptions are the old NEC Multisync 1 and 2 monitors) require the
  signal to be at least 30Khz, and thus won't display the picture. If
  you have a question on whether a given monitor will work, check the
  manual for it or contact the manufacturer to see if it'll support
  15Khz horizontal syncs. Older Apple II RGB cards (such as those to
  extend AE Ramworks cards) should have the same problem.
  The one way to bridge the "use Apple II monitors with Apple IIs" rule
  of thumb is to purchase the Second Sight (tm) VGA display board from
  Sequential Systems. (See the dealers section of this FAQ for their
  address and WWW page). The Second Sight mirrors Apple II video modes
  fairly well onto the VGA display, as well as supplying some VGA modes
  that programmers have begun to tap into. With it, you can connect
  VGA/SVGA monitors to your //e or GS
  If you are desperate for a monitor, the Apple II line puts out a video
  signal from the back port that can be hooked into the 'line in' port
  of a NTSC VCR or modern TVs-- just use a male-male RCA phono jack,
  which electronics shops should carry. Alternatively, a 'RF Converter'
  (try your local Radio Shack or the equivalent) can be used to connect
  that signal to a TV without a 'line in' connector.
  4.8 Can I use my GS Monitor on a Mac or PC?
  A:As stated above in using other monitors on the GS, the GS monitor
  expects a 15Khz horizontal refresh signal. In addition, the monitor
  itself has an 0.37" dot pitch, which as far as modern monitors go,
  that is atrocious. It'd be best to get a monitor designed for other
  systems on them.
  If trying to connect to a Macintosh, only the original Mac Nubus 8-bit
  (256-color) video card is known to work with the GS's monitor. Once
  connected, you'll be able to do 640x480 in interlaced mode.
  [Interlaced mode is flickery to many people, and a very subpar video
  I have never heard of anyone successfully connecting the GS monitor to
  a PC; you'd need to find a video board you could program to get the
  15Khz horizontal refresh signal out, and then you'd still probably be
  locked to the 640x480 interlaced mode.
  4.9 Can the Apple II connect to keyboards, mice, etc. from other
  A: IBM PC keyboards are almost impossible to connect to any Apple II
  directly; the only possibility is to buy a device used to connect such
  a keyboard to a Macintosh, and try that with your GS. [The 'PC
  Transporter' addon card supports PC keyboards, but only in IBM PC
  mode; can't use them for Apple II programs.]
  IBM PC Serial Mice (usually have 9-pin serial connectors) can be
  connected to Apple //es with Sequential System's board. Although the
  connector is shaped identically, the //c, //e, and GS's 9-pin joystick
  port in back is not a serial port; serial mice just won't work if
  connected to it. (If you have a GS, just buy a Mac ADB mouse and use
  Most Macintosh (except for the ones with the phone jack connector,
  such as the original Mac and Mac 512) keyboards and mice are Apple
  Desktop Bus (ADB) devices. ADB made its debut on the Apple IIGS; it
  was later adopted by the Mac SE and other computers in the line. This
  means that most Mac ADB mice and keyboards will work on the GS. There
  are no reported incompatabilities with Mac mice that I've heard about,
  though multibutton mice may only have one button work on the GS.
  Macintosh keyboards may not work; here is a list of ones known to work
  and not, compiled by Bradley P. Von Haden (bpvh@primenet.com)

The Apple IIgs can use some Mac ADB keyboards. I have compiled the following list of keyboards that do and do not work with an Apple IIgs. Additions/corrections encouraged.

Last updated: 07 February 1997


Manufacturer, Model [information note] ($$ - resellers: the first

    company listed has the best price without considering shipping
    and handling)

Work with an Apple IIgs:

Apple ADB Keyboards I and II AppleDesign Keyboard ($85 - MM, MW, MZ) Apple Extended Keyboard (original) Apple Extended Keyboard II ($155 - MM, MW, MZ) Adesso 105 Extended Keyboard ($80 - MZ ??, Tiger SW) Adesso 102 Extended Keyboard w/ Trackball [Trackball does NOT work]

    ($100 - MZ ??, Tiger Software)

AlphaSmart Pro ADB keyboard [www.alphasmart.com] ($270 - MZ,

    Educational Resources, MW ??)

Arriva Extended ($40 - MM ??) Interex Mac-105A Extended ($55 - MM ??, Syex Express; $34 - Computer


Key Tronic MacPro Plus ($130 - MZ ??, APS Tech.) OptiMac Extended Keyboard (???) PowerUser 105E Extended Keyboard ($60 - MW) SIIG, Inc MacTouch Model 1905 (~$100.00) SIIG, TrueTouch [ROM 03 only] Sun OmniMac Ultra [extended, ADB type] (???) Suntouch ADB Extended Keyboard ($75 - Syex Express) VividKey Extended Keyboard ($60 - MM ??)

Do not work:

Apple Adjustable Keyboard MacALLY Peripherals Extended Keyboard MicroSpeed Keyboard Deluxe MAC

Not Sure (basic):

Adesso Easy Touch ext kb ($44 - MZ) Adesso ProPoint ext kb w/ thinkpad ($60 - MM, MZ) Adesso Easy Touch ext kb ($50- MZ) Alps GlidePoint kb ($110 - MZ) ClubMac Extended Keyboard ($39 - CM ??) Datadesk MAC 101 E ($80 - MW, MZ ??) Datadesk TrackBoard ($100 - MW, MZ ??) Key Tronic Trak Pro Plus ($230 - APS Tech. ??) Performance Soft Touch Personal ext kb ($40 - MZ Performance Soft Touch Extended Keyboard ($40 - MZ) Spring Sun Tech MacPride 97 ($90 - MM ??) Spring Sun Tech MacPride 105 ($59 - MM ??) Spring Sun Tech MacPride 110 [MAC/IBM switchable] ($80 - MM ??) Spring Sun Tech MacPride KidBoard ($100 - MM ??) Spring Sun Tech MacPride Strong Man (??)

Not Sure (ergonomic):

Adesso NUForm Ergonomic ext kb ($58 - CM, MM, MW, MZ) Adesso NUForm Ergomomic ext kb w/ pointer ($59 - MZ, CM, MM, MW) Adesso NUForm Ergonomic ext kb w/ touch pad ($86 - CM, MM, MW, MZ) Adesso Tru-From Ergonomic ext kb ($68 - CM, MM, MW) Adesso Tru-Form Ergonomic ext kb w/ pointer ($80 - MZ, CM, MM, MW) Adesso Tru-Form Ergonomic ext kb w/ touchpad ($96 - CM, MM, MW)

Contact Information:

(CM) ClubMac (800-258-2622) (http://www.club-mac.com) (MM) MacMall (800-222-2808) (http://www.macmall.com) (MW) MacWarehouse (800-255-6227) (http://www.warehouse.com) (MZ) MacZone (800-248-0800) (http://www.maczone.com)

  Some have noted that the Adesso NUForm keyboard works only on a ROM 3
  system, but not a ROM 00/01. The 'MACPride Strong Man' keyboard is
  reported to work fine on a GS. Also, the 'Alphasmart' keyboard
  (http://www.alphasmart.com) is reported by its manufacturer as
  4.10 I want a Y-adapter for my GS keyboard.
  A: Redmond Cable has an ADB Y-connector cable for separating your
  mouse from the side of your keyboard (also can be used to work around
  a failing ADB port on the keyboard). See the Resources section (10.2)
  of this FAQ,
  4.11 Can I hook up a scanner up to my //e or IIGS? Can it do OCR?
  A: Yes and Yes. (OCR stands for Optical Character Recognition -- the
  ability to convert a scan into text) Just pick up a Quickie scanner
  (by Vitesse) and InWords (by WestCode Software). You can scan 4"
  columns (you must have 512K to 1 Meg) and can even paste them together
  to make 8" scans. Then you can use InWords to "read" text and put it
  into a text file or AppleWorks Word Processor file.
  [Update, 3/15/97: it does not appear that InWords is being sold
  anymore by WestCode software. I've emailed the company to try and
  determine its status.] Apple put partially completed support for a few
  Apple flatbed scanners onto the System 6.0 Golden Master CD, but the
  test program for it could not save a scan to a file. No programs are
  known to support various popular TWAIN-compliant scanners such as
  those from HP.
 4.12 What about clock/calendar capabilities?
  The GS is the only machine in the Apple II family to have a built-in
  clock/calendar. There were a number of clock/calendar cards for the
  ][, ][+ and //e. ProDOS 8 had built-in support for the Thunderclock'
  without any modifications; other cards may require their own drivers
  to be installed, or may emulate a Timemaster H.O. The 'No Slot Clock'
  (still being sold by Alltech Electronics and possibly others) fits
  under a ROM chip in the ][, ][+, //e, //c and IIc+, allowing them
  clock capabilities.
  ProDOS 8 does have a problem in its year calculating code-- the
  designers assumed that a table holding only 6 years would be
  sufficient. They were wrong. You'll have to patch ProDOS every few
  years to keep it up to date; a text file including a Basic program is
  on Apple's FTP site:
  4.13 Can a Disk ][ be used on a GS smartport?
  A: Yes. Contact Jameco Electronics (http://www.jameco.com, phone:
  ADAPTER $3.95
  If you don't mind some soldering, you can make this cable up yourself.
  Take a look at http://www.visi.com/~nathan/a2/faq/diskiicable.html
  4.14 Can the Apple II connect to 3.5" drives or flopticals for other
  A: For 400K or 800K Mac 3.5" drives, in general, no. Apple's 3.5"
  drive that was sold with Apple IIGSs has logic to sense which machine
  it is hooked up to (Apple II or Macintosh) and it works accordingly.
  Most 3rd party drives don't bother to put in Apple II support in their
  drives. Some may work if you hook them up to a UDC instead of an Apple
  3.5" inch card. Old style Mac 800k drives are very slow.
  Mac 1.44MB (High Density) 3.5" drives can be used if you have both
  both the High Density 3.5" drive and the new Apple 3.5" superdrive
  controller card. If you don't have both, you will only be able to do
  regular density (800K). Of course, you will also need High Density
  Disks. ProDOS 8 programs not only recognize the 1.44MB disks, but most
  programs format and recognize HD disks just fine. You can even boot
  off of a HD disk, allowing plenty of room for GS/OS Desk Accessories
  and such. There are a few drawbacks: you cannot boot copy-protected
  software or some FTA demos. Also, you can't daisy-chain a 5.25" off a
  HD card. Also, it takes up a slot, even on the GS.
  Unfortunately, Apple never seemed to have sold very many of the
  Superdrive controller card, while used superdrives are apparently
  plentiful, so you may have a hard time getting your hands on a
  superdrive controller card.
  The SCSI Floptical drive (also rare, but may be a bit easier to find)
  can also read and write 1.44MB and 720K disks, as well as its special
  21MB disks, but not 400K or 800K Apple II disks. You'd need a SCSI
  controller card, and special drivers with an Apple High Speed SCSI
  board or a recent ROM version with the RamFAST board. For more
  information, please see the Apple II & Floptical FAQ at
  http://www.visi.com/~nathan/a2/faq/floptical.html, and this FAQ's
  section on SCSI.
  IBM PC 3.5" drives (as well as all sorts of low and high density 5.25"
  drives) can be connected only with the (discontinued) Applied
  Engineering PC Transporter card, or the Bluedisk card from SHH Systems
  (See the section on dealers and hardware addons of this FAQ for their
  address and WWW page).
  There are also reports that the "CTI Drive" allows you to hook up IBM
  3.5" and 5.25" disk drives (no High Density support yet) to your Apple
  II. [IBM drives are cheaper] Some software is included to read MS/DOS
  disks on your Apple. Otherwise, ProDOS and GS/OS recognize them like
  normal drives. Unfortunately, information on this "CTI drive" is
  minimal at best, and nobody's responded to my requests for more
  information on them.
  4.15 How about hooking up cheap IDE Hard Drives?
  A: ///SHH Systeme makes several IDE controller cards for the Apple II
  family; they claim to be as fast to faster than the RamFAST card.See
  http://users.ids.net/~kerwood/shh.html, or contact jlange@tasha.muc.de
  for details like technical specs, pricing, and S/H procedure.
  Their Microdrive card supported only 256MB of capacity per drive, and
  2 drives per card. The MicroDrive/Turbo supports 2GB per drive and 2
  drives per card. [Sizes of drives are always increasing, but you
  should be able to connect a drive larger than that.]

4.16 Can an Apple II connect to a SCSI device?

  SCSI is a protocol (method of transmitting data) that lets you hook up
  to 8 SCSI devices on a SCSI bus (SCSI devices connected together).
  There are Hard Drives, tape drives, CD-ROM drives, scanners, and more
  available as SCSI devices.
  To get SCSI on an Apple II, you need to buy and install a SCSI card.
  (//cs and IIc+s have no native SCSI cards, but Chinook (later bought
  out by Sequential) made a Smartport capable drive as your only choice
  for HDs). At first, there was the Apple Rev 'C' SCSI card (named after
  the final ROM version--all previous versions MUST be upgraded to work
  with current software). There were several clones from the likes of
  CMS and Chinook. Then Apple came out with it's High Speed DMA SCSI
  card. This has the ability to do Direct Memory Access to the RAM in
  your computer, which speeds things up. This created a lot of problems
  with cards that were not DMA compatible.
  CV Technologies (bought out by Sequential Systems) also has a DMA SCSI
  card called the RamFast. This card has 256K or 1MB of on-board RAM to
  make it even faster than Apple's card. It can also supply terminator
  power if you drive does not supply it. Both of the new cards support
  things like SCSI tape backup units, removable SCSI drives, SCSI
  CD-ROM, and of course SCSI hard drives. Both the new cards also
  require an Enhanced //e. RamFasts have had their ROM upgraded many
  times; you may want to look into getting the latest if you have
  removable devices such as Flopticals, CD-Roms, Zip Disks, and tape
  Most fixed and removable SCSI disks can be connected to Apple IIs with
  the addition of a SCSI card. People have used Zip, Syquests,
  Bernoulli, CD-ROMs, Floptical devices. With older revisions of the
  SCSI cards, they may NOT recognize them as removable devices, leading
  to crashes and/or data corruption if you switch removable disks with
  the computer on. Most SCSI HDs can also be used, but certain SCSI II
  devices that insist that the SCSI card have a SCSI ID (the Quantum
  Fireball seems to be one of the main culprits) won't work with at
  least the RamFAST 3.01f ROM version and possibly others.
  There are separate mini-FAQs for connecting Floptical and CD-ROM
  devices; you may view them at
  http://www.visi.com/~nathan/a2/faq/floptical.html and
  You must manually give each device it's own unique ID number from 0-7.
  The SCSI card is usually set to 7. On a SCSI chain, there must be a
  Terminator (a bunch of resistors) at each end. Some drives have
  internal terminators (3 small yellow-orange packs) that can be
  switched on and off, and some drives come with an external terminator
  (a "plug" to put on the back of the drive). Nothing other than the
  ends of the chain should be terminated.
  Also, somebody on the bus must supply terminator power (one of the
  SCSI lines). If There are any problems (multiple things with the same
  ID, too much termination or not enough, or no terminator power), you
  may be able to use the drive, but your data will get corrupted. Most
  of the time, the computer will refuse to recognize the drive.
  There are two types of SCSI cables: the 50 pin Centronics-type (like
  on parallel printers) or the 25-pin "D" connector. The 50-pin is the
  SCSI standard, the 25-pin is the Apple standard. There are also cables
  with the 50-pin centronics connector on one side and the 25 pin "D"
  connector on the other.
 4.17 Tips on setting up a SCSI system:
    * Joe Walters, bird@mcs.net has updated the RamFast/SCSI manual, and
      allowed it to be posted online. The WWW version is available at
    * You can have multiple drives on one SCSI card, just make sure you
      remove the termination on all the drives but the last one. This is
      because the newer SCSI cards are terminated (and they count as a
      SCSI device).
    * Always check that the cords are plugged in properly. Never
      connect/disconnect anything when the computer is on.
    * SCSI ID numbers 0 and 7 tend to have special meanings; the Apple
      High Speed SCSI displays multiple copies of partitions online if a
      drive has that ID. Use 1-6 instead.
    * The Apple High Speed SCSI card is not DMA compatible past the
      first 4.25MB of RAM on a GS ROM 00/01 (5MB on a ROM 3). If you've
      got more than that amount of RAM, and are noticing some problems
      in your system (especially with Alltech's Sirius Ram card), you
      may want to consider turning off DMA.
    * The computer will boot the hard drive with the highest SCSI ID,
      which should be ID 6.
    * Try letting the drive 'warm up' for 15 seconds before turning the
      computer on. The SCSI cards look for drives only at startup, and
      may ignore any drives that are not ready.
    * If problems persist, try turning off DMA. If this helps, you may
      have a non-DMA compatible card, such as the early versions of the
      TransWarp, early versions of the GS RAM, or any 8-bit accelerator.
      Alternately, try setting up a RAM disk for all but 4 MB. Some RAM
      cards can only do DMA in the first bank.
    * Check that each device has a unique ID. Most drives have a
      thumbwheel on the back to set the ID. Your SCSI card (yes, it
      counts too) is probably ID 7. Number your drives from 6 downwards
      for best compatibility. The IDs have nothing to do with what slot
      the card is in.
    * Is there a terminator at each end of the SCSI bus? (the DMA cards
      are terminated, and some drives are internally terminated.)
    * Try the software that came with the card. It may give helpful
      diagnostic messages (I.E. the Apple DMA SCSI utilities-- Does it
      say "No Apple SCSI card found" or "No SCSI devices found"?)
    * RamFast boards have gone through many ROM revisions. The latest is
      3.01f; if you want to use any removable disks (Zip/Syquest disks,
      CD-Roms, Flopticals, tape backups), you should contact Sequential
      Systems (see above for address) to purchase a ROM upgrade for your
    * Do you get the message "Unable to Load ProDOS"? If so, it's
      booting your drive but you have no system software on it. Try
      hitting Control-Reset, then PR#5 (or PR#6) to boot a floppy. Then
      install the system software (i.e. ProDOS or GS/OS).
    * In extreme cases, try reformatting the drive, repartitioning, and
      re-installing the System software.
    * If the drive access light blinks in a regular pattern before the
      computer is turned on, it is telling you that it has a hardware
      malfunction. It needs to be serviced.
    * Did you try re-installing the System software? Many times, the
      data on a drive will get corrupted if you run the drive with
      improper terminators or conflicting SCSI ID's. Sometimes you will
      not notice the corrupted data until after you fix the problem. If
      re-installing the System software helps, it was probably a
      software problem, not a hardware problem.
    * The Apple HS DMA SCSI card requires an Enhanced //e. It will not
      work on the older //e without an Enhancement Kit.
    * To really put a drive through it's paces, copy a LOT of stuff from
      one partition to another (copy the entire partition if you can).
      If there is a problem with DMA or SCSI ID's, it will probably show
      up as a strange GS/OS error. (GS only)
    * Make sure you do not have the Apple SCSI drivers installed if you
      have a RamFast. It may cause random problems (they leave an
      interrupt handler dangling if they can't find their card.) (GS
    * Make sure you are booting the right slot. If the card is in slot
      7, you can set the startup slot to Scan or 7. (GS only)
    * If you boot up and only 1 partition shows up, you need to install
      the SCSI drivers. (GS only)
    * If you boot up and it says "Drive XXX is already on the desktop"
      over and over: Probably a SCSI ID problem. (GS only)
    * If you add a CD-ROM, drivers are availiable from Trantor Systems
      LTD, 5415 Randall Place, Fremont, CA 94538 (415)770-1400 (GS only)
    * At least one device must supply terminator power to the bus (Pin
      26). The Apple Cards do not supply this, and some drives don't
      either. Result: The drive won't be seen by any software.
    * Some CMS Platinum drives had pin 40 disconnected for obscure Mac
      compatibility reasons. This can cause problems with the Apple IIs.
    * Make sure you use the drivers from GS/OS, and not the ones that
      ship with the Apple HS SCSI card. (Doesn't apply to RamFast).
    * To low-level format an AE Vulcan drive, go into PART.MANAGER, move
      the highlight to "format" and type "AE". Then say yes to all the
 4.18 What about internal Hard Drives?
  There were a few models of internal HDs made for Apple IIs over the
  years. Applied Engineering's Vulcan and Applied Ingenuity's InnerDrive
  were both power supply replacements that had the HD in the power
  supply and a cable running off to a card in one of the slots. These
  tended to fail a lot; to low-level format an AE Vulcan drive, go into
  PART.MANAGER, move the highlight to "format" and type "AE". Then say
  yes to all the prompts.
  Alltech Electronics is currently manufacturing their 'Focus' line of
  internal hard drive cards, which is a HD on a card with all of the
  necessary interface on the card. Contact them for drive sizes
  (20-500MB versions appear to be available) and pricing.
 4.19 What about a Parallel port Zip drive?
  This is theoretically possible, but would require a very extensive
  amount of work. Your best bet is to get a SCSI Zip drive, and connect
  that to an Apple II SCSI card (see section 4.15 above), and use that.
  Here's a rundown on the problems with a parallel Zip drive: such a
  connection requires a bidirectional (2-way communication) parallel
  card. 95+% of all Apple II parallel cards are unidirectional and won't
  work, except for the rather rare Apple Profile controller card. Next,
  there's the issue of talking to it. Thanks to the publically available
  Linux kernel source code, you could examine driver source and port it
  to the Apple II. After that, only the GS appears able to read
  PC-formatted Zip Disks (see section 5.8 "How do I read/write files
  from other platforms with an Apple IIGS?"); no non-GS reader exists to
  my knowledge.
 4.20 What's this ProFILE hard disk, and how do I use it?
  A: Apple's ProFILE drive was a 5 or 10MB HD with a parallel port
  connection. While the cable may fit (a missing pin in the connector
  didn't block the connection) fine in the SCSI port on an Apple II SCSI
  card or Macintosh, it will NOT work as a SCSI device. It requires a
  special (and apparently much rarer) ProFILE interface board to fit in
  an Apple II or III. Regular parallel cards for the Apple II were not
  bidirectional transmission capable, so they won't work. As that drive
  was much slower than SCSI, and is now much rarer, general users should
  consider going for a SCSI or IDE controller.
 4.21 How about a replacement power supply?
  A: There are several places that sell replacement power supplies, such
  as Alltech Electronics and other replacement parts stores. [See
  section 10.2 for addresses, etc of these vendors]

 4.22 What are the pinouts for all the various Apple II connectors?
  A: While these pinouts are mostly Macintosh, some of this applies to
     to the IIgs and IIc Plus. The pinouts page is available at

There are a lot more questions with answers not included directly in this FAQ; please see http://apple2.info/wiki/index.php?title=CSA2_FAQ for more of them.

Copyright 2007 by Tony Diaz

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